How Do You Advise Someone Who Claims Prophethood?
by The Albaani Site
Questioner: With us in Zarqa [a city in Jordan] now, O Shaikh, I had mentioned to you some time ago that there is an imbecile who claims that he is the one who will get al-waseelah. [Trans. Note: The Prophet, صلى الله عليه وسلم, told us to ask for al-Waseelah for him in the supplication that is said after the call to prayer as mentioned in Bukhaari and Muslim, he, صلى الله عليه وسلم, said, “… then ask Allaah to grant me Al-Waseelah, for it is a station in Paradise which only one of the slaves of Allaah will attain, and I hope to be the one. Whoever asks for al-Waseelah for me, (my) intercession will be permissible for him.” Bukhaari and Muslim (Eng. trans. vol., 1, p. 488, no. 849.). Look how the Prophet, صلى الله عليه وسلم, said, “ … ask Allaah to grant me al-waseelah…” and “I hope to be the one …” and here is this claimant to prophethood saying with all surety that he is the one who will get al-waseelah!]
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: Now a new one has come out.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Maa shaa Allaah.
Questioner: He says, “Indeed I am a Prophet.”
Shaikh al-Albaani: Maa shaa Allaah.
Questioner: And some brothers told me that now, in this mosque which he prays in, lots of tribulation [fitnah] is happening.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: And many people have leaned towards what he says.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: [He says that] that Muhammad, صلى الله عليه وسلم, gave him his share [of Prophethod].
Shaikh al-Albaani: Maa shaa Allaah.
Questioner: And Abu Bakr gave him his share [of knowledge/excellence etc.,] but he gave it away and distributed it amongst his friends and companions.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yaa Salaam!
Questioner: And Umar, may Allaah be pleased with him, also gave his share to one of the friends of this claimant to prophethood.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Maa shaa Allaah.
Questioner: So some of the people came to us, and from these people, O Shaikh, namely from those who, namely, lean towards his saying [they came and said], “My brother, everything he says is, ‘Allaah said …’ and ‘The Prophet said …’ what’s wrong with that?”
Shaikh al-Albaani: Maa shaa Allaah.
Questioner: Yes, so they said, “We want Shaikh Ali and you to come and sit with this brother,” so I said, “By Allaah, I’ve heard more than one time that with such people we shouldn’t, namely, shouldn’t waste our time with them.”
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes, by Allaah.
Questioner: I wanted to … by Allaah … our Shaikh I wanted to seek your opinion, because now this matter has become common in Zarqa.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: Yes, and this man, we sat with him three years ago.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: Maybe I mentioned him to you, O Shaikh, he used to … namely, he used to say that he has underground tunnels which he passes through. And one time I went to Kuwait so I mentioned to him, “What did you find in Kuwait? And where did you go?” He said, “I went to the roundabout,” namely, the roundabout that cars go round.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: “And what did you see there?” He said, “I saw a woman wearing a short skirt.”
That’s all he saw.
So we want some advice from you, namely, that you advise us [whether we should] go to him and clarify this man’s deception to the people with clear proof and if not [i.e., if you advise against it] then we won’t, or [maybe you advise] something else [that] we sit with him and some other people, because now he speaks openly and generally, O Shaikh, in front of the common folk and in front of the students of knowledge from the brothers. [In front] of people from [Hizb] atTahrir and the Salafi youth. So what is your advice? He speaks in front of these people.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: Yes, namely, not only in front of the common folk but even in front of some of the students of knowledge, but what is apparent is that he hasn’t tried to talk to any of these.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes.
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: By Allaah, what comes to mind is that people such as these stupid ones, nothing will suit them except someone who is Abu Sayyaah.
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Do you know what I mean by Abu Sayyaah?
Questioner: Yes, of course, Shaikh.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes, I advise that you go to your new companion [i.e., this claimant to prophethood].
Questioner: Yes, understood.
Shaikh al-Albaani: And in one voice overpower/vanquish him.
Questioner: By Allaah, excellent, O Shaikh. Yes, but Shaikh, he is not here now, he’s in France.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Maa shaa Allaah.
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Okay, by Allaah, my brother, let me ask you, every Prophet has a miracle, [say to him], “You, what is your miracle?”
Questioner: [He says that] he is the reviver of this century, O Shaikh.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Never mind that, that is [nothing but] a claim. [Ask him], “What is your miracle?”
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Do you know him from before?
Questioner: Yes, I know him, O Shaikh.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Is he educated or not?
Questioner: It seems as though he has some education.
Shaikh al-Albaani: He has some education. How old is he?
Questioner: Round about forty.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Yes, say to him, “Every Prophet was sent when he was forty.”
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: So you ask him firstly, “You, how old are you?” If he says to you that he hasn’t reached forty yet then say to him, “So you haven’t become a Prophet [then].”
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: Secondly, [ask him], “What are the signs of your prophethood? Do you have a miracle or clear proof?”
Questioner: Yes.
Shaikh al-Albaani: The Prophet, صلى الله عليه وسلم, came with a clear proof and the Quraan and it is the miracle of all time. [Ask him], “You, what is your miracle?”
O my brother, this [man] needs someone to mock/ridicule him.
Questioner: Yes, by Allaah, O Shaikh.
Shaikh al-Albaani: So don’t tire yourself out …
Mawsoo’atul-Allaamah, vol. 8, pp. 339-344.
All modern scholars say that Jesus (Isa), the prophet, died before the age of 40, which means that he must have been a prophet before the age of 40. How can it be that “Every Prophet was sent when he was 40”?
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Firstly, In Islam, Muslims do not believe that Jesus (May peace be upon him) was crucified or killed in any way. Rather, its among the many important tenets of Islamic creed to believe that “Jesus, the messenger of Allah never died, rather he was raised up to Allah, and he will return at the end of times as a normal human being, he will demolish the Jews and Christians, he will slaughter all the pork, he will kill the Antichrist, and he will live among mankind for 40 years and then, he will die in a normal death of a human being”
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Yes, you are right. Still, my main point was that he began his work as a prophet before the age of 40. So, how does that fit in with “Every Prophet was sent when he was 40″?
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The commonly held view among the Scholars is that the Messenger is more general than a Prophet. the Messenger is the one to whom laws(Shar’iah)are reveled and he is commanded to convey them, whereas a Prophet is the one who recieves revelation but he is not commanded to convey it, in this case every Messenger is a Prophet, but every Prophet is not a Messenger. Hence the difference Isa was both, thus his miricle starting at the age of seven and dieing at the age of 39 according to Ibn Kathir rahimullah ta’alaa, so then the Shaykh would be referring to the Prophets as mentioned above and Allahu ta’alaa wa’lim.
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I imagine there are, but could you mention the hadiths or verses in the Quran that support the idea that a prophet needs to be 40 before being sent? Thanks.
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Hve a 19 year old son does not listen to mi nore his dad smokes everything shouts doesnt stay in likes to stay out till.late witn wrong people pleae help mi or tell mi a waseelaha to gt him bck doesnt like to work neither im fed up its been four years messing abut like this
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